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Sunday, 17 July 2022

[LPNM] Libertarian Party of New Mexico “Constitutional Convention” for Tuesday, 12 July 2022 [Online via Google Meet and YouTube]

Filed under: Events, Listening, Politics, Viewing — Tags: , , , , , — mikewb1971 @ 9:20 PM (21:20)

Comments posted to the Google Meet chatroom (now deleted?) —

Patty Malowney 6:15 PM
https://youtu.be/quVmOF_jRrQ

Nate Banks 6:16 PM
https://youtu.be/quVmOF_jRrQ

Chris Luchini 6:26 PM
https://youtu.be/R5MZwVLfD6A

Helen Milenski 6:46 PM
Youtube is buffering about 50% of the time and the sound is not clear.

Bob Finch 6:47 PM
I moved to phone for audio…..that helped tremendously !

Burly Cain 6:51 PM
Sound is clear on my end.

Patty Malowney 6:55 PM
I don’t think the youtube is streaming now.

Helen Milenski 6:56 PM
It is still streaming, but the Youtube is buffering so much that it can’t run more than a few seconds at a time.
It is running far behind the current moment.

Patty Malowney 6:57 PM
ok ty

Bob Finch 7:11 PM
I have to take a call….so please excuse me …Im sorry about this. Thanks for all that I got to participate in tonight. VERY best regards – Bob Finch

Burly Cain 7:22 PM
There are a few people who may want to have that phone number in the chat around the livestream.

Helen Milenski 7:23 PM
How can we validate them as voting members?

Mike Blessing 7:24 PM
I posted the dial-in number and PIN to the comments of the YouTube a minute ago.

Web Master 7:25 PM
Join the meeting: https://meet.google.com/wtx-bczr-mjm

Dial in (audio only): ‪(US) +1 443-606-2420‬ PIN: ‪417 451 796#‬

Fred Snoy 7:28 PM
whose phone number ends in 61?

Ranota Banks 7:29 PM
Elizabeth Honce

Helen Milenski 7:31 PM
I am recording the youtube commentary.

Ranota Banks 7:33 PM
I’m not seeing the commentary.

Helen Milenski 7:34 PM
It is in the chat.
I can post here.
If you would like.
It is kind of inflammatory and derrogatory.
I believe one person used the work Ratfuckery.

Helen Milenski 7:36 PM

Michael Tomac
So I’m guessing being a monthly dues paying member for 2+ years at double the annualized rate is insufficient to be a part of this meeting?

Ryan Brown
it isn’t strong feeling about what is going on. it is ratfuckery

rebecca
How is this stream so bad? I thought after the March debacle with the AV the head of the party would get his sh*t together.

socialismo52
Lol. This some bullshit. This is what you call manufactured consent

Nathan Shocklee
Trying to join using the google meet link with no luck

rebecca
What the heck man? This is embarrassing.

socialismo52
No one can hear the other members.

Frank Martin
only the chair can be heard

Devin Rivera
we can’t hear anyone but Chris.

rebecca
♀ wonder what he’s saying?

Frank Martin
Chris’ computer is buffering about 50% of the time, so his voice is cut off.

Frank Martin
could this meeting be run any worse if they were trying?

Frank Martin
also Chris’ screen is all blurry, cannot read the text… buffering problem is worse now

rebecca
Give them time. . .they haven’t insulted anyone yet

socialismo52
Just confirmed Tom is here. Insults coming, but we won’t be able to hear

rebecca
#blessed (no nipples)

Matthew Lucas
Can’t wait until all this is for nothing, again

Nathan Shocklee
I paid months ago and am not part of this convention despite mak

Helen Milenski 7:37 PM
Elisheva Levin
I am a life member denied access although I sat in the waiting room being told I’d be let in as soon as somebody let us in.

Frank Martin
For the record, 33 minutes in, and still: only the chair can be heard, his screen is blurry, and frequent buffering makes the proceedings unintelligible.

Frank Martin
If you want to hold something as important as a constitutional convention, you MUST have the technology work.

Elisheva Levin
The Party needs to do this right. Give people enough notice, get a better platform—such as Zoom. Pay for good tech. This is the ultimate shit show.

Devin Rivera
Micheal Tomac has been dues paying for two years and was denied access to this convention

Frank Martin
Yeah, I’d say a constitutional convention rates a Zoom account. Let’s go ahead and splurge🤑

Elisheva Levin
I can hear about every third of a sentence.

Elisheva Levin
I have just been told by the chair that he is not responsible. I think the party needs a whole new team. This convention should be live. All members should be able to attend.

Frank Martin
This is to report on the manner in which the LPNM constitutional convention of 12 July 22 was conducted:

Frank Martin
60 minutes into the event: only the chair can be heard, his screen is blurry, and very frequent buffering on his end makes the proceedings unintelligible.

Frank Martin
These problems are such that I believe the convention should be invalidated.

Frank Martin
I know there were qualifying caucus delegates who were not seated because of technical problems, and even those who were could not participate effectively.

Helen Milenski 7:38 PM

Cory Tallman
I wasn’t aware New Mexico was stuck on dial up

Frank Martin

Helen Milenski 7:38 PM

Cory Tallman

Helen Milenski 7:47 PM
Dial in (audio only): ‪(US) +1 443-606-2420‬ PIN: ‪417 451 796#‬

Burly Cain 7:47 PM
Join the meeting: https://meet.google.com/wtx-bczr-mjm

Dial in (audio only): ‪(US) +1 443-606-2420‬ PIN: ‪417 451 796#‬

Patty Malowney 7:47 PM
Dial in (audio only): ‪(US) +1 443-606-2420‬ PIN: ‪417 451 796#‬

Fred Snoy 7:50 PM

who is socialismo 52

Fred Snoy 7:52 PM
whose phone ends in 33? I need it for roll call please

Ranota Banks 8:11 PM
Language, not status

Valoree Althoff 8:43 PM
American Institute of Parliamentarians Standard Code of Parliamentary Procedure
AIPSC

Valoree Althoff 8:46 PM
So the parliamentarian credential you would be searching for in a parliamentarian is a Certified Parliamentarian or Certified Professional Parliamentarian with the American Institute of Parliamentarian.

Comments posted to the second YouTube livestream (and don’t forget the hot-mike part at about the 46-minute point!) —

Michael Tomac So I’m guessing being a monthly dues paying member for 2+ years at double the annualized rate is insufficient to be a part of this meeting?

rebecca How is this stream so bad? I thought after the March debacle with the AV the head of the party would get his sh*t together.

Nathan Shocklee Trying to join using the google meet link with no luck

rebecca What the heck man? This is embarrassing.

socialismo52 No one can hear the other members.

Frank Martin only the chair can be heard

Devin Rivera we can’t hear anyone but Chris.

rebecca ♀ wonder what he’s saying?

Frank Martin Chris’ computer is buffering about 50% of the time, so his voice is cut off.

Frank Martin could this meeting be run any worse if they were trying?

Frank Martin also Chris’ screen is all blurry, cannot read the text… buffering problem is worse now

rebecca Give them time…they haven’t insulted anyone yet

socialismo52 Just confirmed Tom is here. Insults coming, but we won’t be able to hear

Matthew Lucas Can’t wait until all this is for nothing, again

Nathan Shocklee I paid months ago and am not part of this convention despite making multiple requests

Elisheva Levin I am a life member denied access although I sat in the waiting room being told I’d be let in as soon as somebody let us in.

Frank Martin For the record, 33 minutes in, and still: only the chair can be heard, his screen is blurry, and frequent buffering makes the proceedings unintelligible.

Frank Martin If you want to hold something as important as a constitutional convention, you MUST have the technology work.

Elisheva Levin The Party needs to do this right. Give people enough notice, get a better platform—such as Zoom. Pay for good tech. This is the ultimate shit show.

Devin Rivera Micheal Tomac has been dues paying for two years and was denied access to this convention

Frank Martin Yeah, I’d say a constitutional convention rates a Zoom account. Let’s go ahead and splurge🤑

Elisheva Levin I can hear about every third of a sentence.

Elisheva Levin I have just been told by the chair that he is not responsible. I think the party needs a whole new team. This convention should be live. All members should be able to attend.

Frank Martin This is to report on the manner in which the LPNM constitutional convention of 12 July 22 was conducted:

Frank Martin 60 minutes into the event: only the chair can be heard, his screen is blurry, and very frequent buffering on his end makes the proceedings unintelligible.

Frank Martin These problems are such that I believe the convention should be invalidated.

Frank Martin I know there were qualifying caucus delegates who were not seated because of technical problems, and even those who were could not participate effectively.

Cory Tallman I wasn’t aware New Mexico was stuck on dial up

Frank Martin

Frank Martin I wish I could be a fly on the wall when Chris watches this video…

Ranota Banks The normal tech used for this is inaccessible due to an accident between Los Alamos and his home. This was explained earlier.

Elisheva Levin Then you cancel the meeting

Elisheva Levin Preferably until after the campaigns are done. There are candidates to support right now.

Elisheva Levin You can figure out how to make the party less and less accessible later.

Ranota Banks These are all ongoing discussions that have been happening for several months. A phone number to call in is about to be posted to the description.

Ranota Banks If you need help using the phone number, please reach out.

Elisheva Levin Lady, you need to end this now and start again after elections.

Chris Luchini Dial in (audio only): (US) +1 443-606-2420 PIN: 417 451 796#

Drake Lundstrom Was notice given on the website for the convention?

Helen Milenski No We have till 9pm

Ranota Banks Yes, Drak.

Matthew Lucas Didn’t work in Delaware, Didn’t Work in Massachusetts… so now Idaho, Michigan and New Mexico are gonna try, and it’s not gonna work again

Chris Luchini Phone is only for votin members

LPNM Webmaster @Drake Lundstrom Yes, it was posted to the website

Michael Tomac “2. NOTICE. The Secretary shall notify each caucus member of the dates, time, and public place of state conventions” When were we informed about the meeting?

Drake Lundstrom Can you send me a link to where it was posted on the website?

Helen Milenski If you are a member please call in and indentify yourself for record.

socialismo52 Put me in the screen cap!

Michael Tomac I have been a monthly dues paying member for 2+ years, but according to what the Chair said I am not eligible to vote right?

rebecca An accident making the the tech unusable is unacceptable. A good leader has back ups in place especially considering the mess of the AV system at the March convention.

socialismo52 Take your shirt off, Tom!

rebecca Agreed

Frank Martin Rebecca, is Chris’ screen blurry for you? I cannot read anything on it except that he needs to update his browser.

rebecca I can’t read anything! It’s just comical at this point.

Frank Martin Thanks, i just wanted to be sure it wasn’t just my computer.

rebecca Assuming

Drake Lundstrom If you watch the feed at a delay, it is not as blurry

Drake Lundstrom The executive conference call has as good audio as the main stream

Burly Cain The audio is very good for us here.

Drake Lundstrom The problem is that we can only hear Chris.

Frank Martin And that, only half the time…

Frank Martin Worst meeting ever. I actually feel sorry for him.

Drake Lundstrom Watching on a delay (I am a few minutes behind) his audio is fine. I think that part is a buffering issue

Frank Martin How do you watch on a delay?

Cory Tallman Continuing this with this many issues seems like a disservice to the LPNM

Drake Lundstrom Slide the time marker back. I started watching late and wanted to watch from the beginning

Frank Martin Thanks Drake

Drake Lundstrom I finally caught up! (I have been watching at 2x to catch up) and now the audio is completely falling apart

Panda Are people there having the same problems?

Drake Lundstrom Probably not, YouTube encoders run separately from the meeting

Frank Martin This meeting sure is rolling right along, how can anyone keep up?

socialismo52 plz clap

rebecca 😂

Drake Lundstrom The biggest YouTube issue isn’t the buffering, it is that we can only hear Chris’s audio. Can someone tell him that literally no one else’s audio is being recorded?

Frank Martin ?

Frank Martin I delayed the playback but still have buffering issues.

rebecca how does one recruit new members when this is what they see?

Frank Martin Its a puzzle! Its a riddle! Its a… constitutional convention agenda item!

LPNM Webmaster The call is now being recorded

LPNM Webmaster (the Google Meet call)

rebecca What minutes did the recoding start please?


FOR FURTHER REFERENCE

  1. 1st READ NM LP Special convention summary
  2. 2022 Attch 5 Caryn Ann Harlos to Joshua Chappell
  3. 2022 Attch 7 Chris Luchini on NM Constitutional Conventon
  4. Tuesday, 18 January 2022: Questions for the NM Secretary
  5. Monday, 24 January 2022: State party questions
  6. Thursday, 27 January: To the Executive Committee of the Libertarian Party of New Mexico
  7. Friday, 28 January 2002: Parliamentary Representation for Tyler Askin and attached letter
  8. Tuesday, 8 February 2022: New Mexico special convention
  9. Tuesday, 8 February 2022: To Members of the LNC
  10. Proposed LPNM Constitution and Bylaws for Tuesday, 12 July 2022

NOTES

  1. Reposted —
    1. Personal blogs and micro-blogs — Bastyon / Bitchute here and here / Blogspot / Diaspora* / Ello / Facebook / Gab / Gettr / gorf.pub / Liberty.me / Minds / Odysee here and here / Rumble here and here / Spreely / Tribel / Truth Social / Twitter / VK / Wimkin / YouTube here and here
    2. Absurdist Discordian Party of New Mexico — Facebook page / Spreely page / Wimkin page
    3. Albuquerque Liberty Forum — Facebook page / Spreely page
    4. Discordian Absurdist Party of New Mexico — Facebook page / Spreely page
    5. Egg McMuffin for President — Facebook page
    6. New Mexico Dissent and Expose — Facebook page / Spreely page
    7. New Mexico Libertarians — Facebook group / Facebook page / Minds group / Spreely group / Spreely page / Wimkin group / Wimkin page
    8. Resist Marxism New Mexico — Facebook page
    9. The Old Drunken Old Irrvelivents — Facebook page / Spreely page
    10. The Weekly Sedition — Bitchute here and here / Diaspora* / Facebook / Gab / Gettr / gorf.pub / Minds / Odysee here and here / Rumble here and here / Spreely / Tribel / Truth Social / Twitter / Wimkin / WordPress / YouTube here and here
    11. Vote Dumpster Fire — Facebook page
    12. Vote the Air — Facebook page
    13. Vote the Air NM — Facebook page
    14. Wood Chipper — Facebook page

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